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Post by heinz1 on Jul 4, 2015 20:59:23 GMT -6
I need to figure out what to check it starts pretty good and idles but can't give it any throttle without it stalling. some more info: it was suppose to have been running good i drove 2 1/2 hours to see it and it was raining so i couldn't ride it but it started right up and sounded ok, loaded it up and brought it home and there was some hard down pours of rain now i wonder if water could have gotten in something? i am going to check the air filters next
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Post by Blaine on Jul 5, 2015 5:39:58 GMT -6
I need to figure out what to check it starts pretty good and idles but can't give it any throttle without it stalling. some more info: it was suppose to have been running good i drove 2 1/2 hours to see it and it was raining so i couldn't ride it but it started right up and sounded ok, loaded it up and brought it home and there was some hard down pours of rain now i wonder if water could have gotten in something? i am going to check the air filters next Yes,Do that.Als if you can give it throttle with the choke on the pilot jets in the carbs are plugged & carbs need cleaned.  |
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Post by heinz1 on Jul 5, 2015 15:20:59 GMT -6
I charged the battery while taking the air filters out 1 filter had nuts in it and they smelled like gas other then that they looked alright and i took a air hose and blowed them out. i also puled the gas tank and took the emission valve and lines out and plugged the lines. I put the tank back on and adjust pilot screws to 2 1/2 turns out i hit the starter switch and it took off better then ever and it would rev 4-5000 easy but then the idle was to slow and i could hold it at 1200 with the throttle i turned the idle screw a bunch of times trying to get it to speed up and idle by it self and also tried the pilot screw a 1/2 turn ether way then it would barely idle and would not rev any more so i stopped and charged the battery some more thinking it was weak and causing the problem. after setting for about 30 min i started it again ant it wanted to run at 6-7000 rpms now i am thinking its flooding and some how and causing the problems but gas isn't coming out of the over flow tube. and also it doesn't have a vacuum petcock
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Post by mik3 on Jul 6, 2015 19:58:17 GMT -6
if you turned the idle screw way in, then that would cause it to run way up. A dead battery could be an issue as well, what does the charger read for charge? More than likely Blaine is right, and you may need to do a full cleaning and rebuild on the carbs. Also make sure your throttle cable is returning properly and slides smooth. 2.5 turns on the mixture screws is a really good starting point, I think I ended up at 2.25 on one and closer to 2 on the other after dialing in. Also remember, the bike will idle a bit lower while cold, after it heats up it should idle normally. On colder days, I will turn in my idle screw to let it warm up around 1200 rpm, then back it down as it rises while warming up to running temp.
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Post by heinz1 on Jul 7, 2015 5:33:56 GMT -6
I checked float level last night with clear tubing and it is ok, I couldn't get it to start with or with out choke so I have pulled the carbs and ordered kits for them. The battery showed fully charged then I cranked it a couple times and it sat all night and it shows 12.56 volts on a digital gauge
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Post by eaglerider on Jul 7, 2015 6:49:34 GMT -6
When was last valve adjustment done???
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Post by heinz1 on Jul 8, 2015 8:53:26 GMT -6
I'm probably going to adjust the valves too I have been trying to find out if the PO did it or not
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Post by heinz1 on Jul 19, 2015 19:31:13 GMT -6
I adjusted the valves today they was way loose and i rebuilt the carbs the other day and got it all back together today and it started right up and sounded great other than exhaust leaks it would rev up and idle great then after it warmed up it started flooding so ill have to check the float levels again not sure if the coils could get hot and cause the issue? But i'm getting closer to riding this thing
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Post by heinz1 on Jul 23, 2015 10:21:04 GMT -6
I changed my exhaust to some straight pipes with no cross over pipe ( it's to loud I'll have to get some mufflers fitted) when I had it running I could hear a difference in one cylinder than the other I got to checking and the spark was weak on the side that wasn't doing much I cleaned the plug and put a extra coil on and it started right up and sounded good running on 2 cylinders it would rev up great the idle would go up and down a little I need to sink the carbs but after it got warm in about 5 minuets it would stall and not take gas anymore nor idle I have a extra ic box and put it on and it didn't help. I'm getting a felling this is some how ignition related seams no mater what I do when it gets warm it runs bad and stalls. I'm not sure what I should look at next?
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Post by Blaine on Jul 23, 2015 13:03:12 GMT -6
I changed my exhaust to some straight pipes with no cross over pipe ( it's to loud I'll have to get some mufflers fitted) when I had it running I could hear a difference in one cylinder than the other I got to checking and the spark was weak on the side that wasn't doing much I cleaned the plug and put a extra coil on and it started right up and sounded good running on 2 cylinders it would rev up great the idle would go up and down a little I need to sink the carbs but after it got warm in about 5 minuets it would stall and not take gas anymore nor idle I have a extra ic box and put it on and it didn't help. I'm getting a felling this is some how ignition related seams no mater what I do when it gets warm it runs bad and stalls. I'm not sure what I should look at next? Have you checked the resistor caps om the plugs?? |
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Post by heinz1 on Jul 23, 2015 13:18:25 GMT -6
I changed my exhaust to some straight pipes with no cross over pipe ( it's to loud I'll have to get some mufflers fitted) when I had it running I could hear a difference in one cylinder than the other I got to checking and the spark was weak on the side that wasn't doing much I cleaned the plug and put a extra coil on and it started right up and sounded good running on 2 cylinders it would rev up great the idle would go up and down a little I need to sink the carbs but after it got warm in about 5 minuets it would stall and not take gas anymore nor idle I have a extra ic box and put it on and it didn't help. I'm getting a felling this is some how ignition related seams no mater what I do when it gets warm it runs bad and stalls. I'm not sure what I should look at next? Have you checked the resistor caps om the plugs?? I haven't but I will next Thanks |
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Post by heinz1 on Aug 4, 2015 11:50:50 GMT -6
I put some mufflers on, changed 1 resistor cap and put new spark plugs then it fired right up with no choke I then turned the idle mixture screws in to 1 1/2 turns (I have a video of in running in the pic section) I went for a ride about 5 miles long the mid range was a little sputtery by the time I got back it was idling about 4000rpms I checked the cables weren't binding and it was on the adjusting screw on the carb. The next evening I went out and tried to start it with no choke and it didn't hit at all so I pulled the plugs and there covered in black soot
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Post by Blaine on Aug 4, 2015 15:09:01 GMT -6
I put some mufflers on, changed 1 resistor cap and put new spark plugs then it fired right up with no choke I then turned the idle mixture screws in to 1 1/2 turns (I have a video of in running in the pic section) I went for a ride about 5 miles long the mid range was a little sputtery by the time I got back it was idling about 4000rpms I checked the cables weren't binding and it was on the adjusting screw on the carb. The next evening I went out and tried to start it with no choke and it didn't hit at all so I pulled the plugs and there covered in black soot Air filters/? |
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Post by heinz1 on Aug 4, 2015 16:34:27 GMT -6
I also put in new air filters. I checked the float level not running I guess I will have to check them running and see where there at
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Post by heinz1 on Aug 4, 2015 18:42:09 GMT -6
I cleaned the plugs and started it up and let it run a couple min then checked the float levels running 1 was right with the top of float bowl and other was 1/8" below top of float bowl so I don't think ether one is high. But while I was testing it as it warmed up (with no choke at all) the idle started creeping up. Now I don't know what to do. Also the new air filters are the emgo replacement ones
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Post by heinz1 on Aug 10, 2015 11:48:38 GMT -6
Looking at this my fuel levels are low so I'm wondering if it's running out of gas and causing the idle to go hay wire? I ordered some pod filters and some new float bowl screws so when I get everything together I will take the carbs back off and make some adjustments
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Post by heinz1 on Sept 1, 2015 20:02:25 GMT -6
I took the carbs off and checked the float levels they were 15 mm and I changed them to 14mm it might turn out to be to rich later but I'll try it. Then I found my tank had a petcock that's to short and Handel hits tank and won't go to reserve so I think most of my problems is running out of gas
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Post by heinz1 on Sept 2, 2015 5:32:56 GMT -6
It acted like a weed-eater running out of gas every time it got low the idle would start climbing
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Post by Blaine on Sept 2, 2015 12:45:45 GMT -6
It acted like a weed-eater running out of gas every time it got low the idle would start climbing If it the wrong petcock than that explains alot. |
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