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Post by lrkellogg on Jun 10, 2013 15:36:46 GMT -6
So I know that my front blinkers do work, they worked last week. I was just re-doing the electrical connections for the headlight/running lights/turnsignals, because the previous owner did a poor job (was always shorting out on me). The back turn signals work great, while the fronts stay solidly illuminated. What would this be? I recall there were 3 wires I reconnected...black, red, and black and white, Is it one of these? I have solid wire to wire contact though which is puzzling as to why my fronts don't work....Any Ideas?
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Post by BenInPA on Jun 10, 2013 16:29:04 GMT -6
I think you have the wrong wires hooked up. I don't remember there being a red wire on the signal/marker lights. Someone correct me if I am wrong as it is hard to see the wiring diagram on mobile. You wires should be for Right --Black-Gray/Yellow-Black/Yellow and Left -- Black-Gray-Black/Yellow. I could be wrong on the grey as it might be green. I can't remember for sure what G and GY is on the wiring diagram. Sent from my Droid 4 using Proboards Mobile App.  ;D |
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Post by Blaine on Jun 10, 2013 18:49:10 GMT -6
So I know that my front blinkers do work, they worked last week. I was just re-doing the electrical connections for the headlight/running lights/turnsignals, because the previous owner did a poor job (was always shorting out on me). The back turn signals work great, while the fronts stay solidly illuminated. What would this be? I recall there were 3 wires I reconnected...black, red, and black and white, Is it one of these? I have solid wire to wire contact though which is puzzling as to why my fronts don't work....Any Ideas? Don't forget that you have running lights on the front.Thats why you have 3 wires on the front & two on the rear.One wire is flasher the other is running light & the third is ground.  |
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Post by BenInPA on Jun 10, 2013 22:25:27 GMT -6
Ok now that I am home I can read the wiring diagram better. Your turn/marker light's should be the following wires.
Right: Blue - Black/Yellow - Grey
Left: Blue - Black/Yellow - Grey to Green
Blue is Marker
Grey is Turn
Black/Yellow is Ground
Rear signals would be the same minus the blue wire.
I have a wiring diagram if you want it. Send me your email address and I'll send it on over to you. Hope this helps you out.
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Post by lrkellogg on Jun 11, 2013 15:23:52 GMT -6
So I know that my front blinkers do work, they worked last week. I was just re-doing the electrical connections for the headlight/running lights/turnsignals, because the previous owner did a poor job (was always shorting out on me). The back turn signals work great, while the fronts stay solidly illuminated. What would this be? I recall there were 3 wires I reconnected...black, red, and black and white, Is it one of these? I have solid wire to wire contact though which is puzzling as to why my fronts don't work....Any Ideas? Don't forget that you have running lights on the front.Thats why you have 3 wires on the front & two on the rear.One wire is flasher the other is running light & the third is ground. Well the wires that I reconnected weren't any of the colored wires, just the black, red, and black-white (3 pairs). I didn't touch any of the colored wires. I am pretty sure that the wires I reconnected were for the running lights, because that is what was shorting out. I am slightly confused as to how my front turn signals don't work now because I made sure to leave all wires paired with their correct mate as before when my signals worked.....for some apparent reason they don't work now, even though the 3 pairs of wires are connected and secured. So I assume that my problem is going to be a short/disconnect in the colored wires |
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Post by BenInPA on Jun 11, 2013 17:50:46 GMT -6
I emailed the wiring diagram to you Kellogg. Once you get to looking at it you will see what I mean. There shouldn't be a red wire connected to the front or rear signals. Did the previous owner re-wire the bike? Chances are the reason the lights were shorting out was because the wrong wires were hooked up. Good luck and let us know how you make out. Sent from my Droid 4 using Proboards Mobile App. ;D |
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Post by lrkellogg on Jun 12, 2013 9:09:34 GMT -6
Yep, I wondered about that. Evidently the previous owner re-wired the electrical system on the bike...and in a somewhat poor fashion. I went out to play around and see if I could figure out what was the ground, running lamp, and turn signal wires. I noticed that with all 3 pairs of wires connected my running lights worked but no signals, however I then disconnected one of the pairs of wires and lost the running light, but gained the turn signal in the left lamp...I am by no means handy at all when it comes to electrical work, why would the turn signal only work when one of the wires was disconnected?
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Post by eaglerider on Jun 12, 2013 13:02:14 GMT -6
3 pairs??? there are supposed to be 3 wires to each of the front signal/running lights, as per the post by blaine. If the previous owner really messed up the wiring harness, you might be better off replacing the whole harness. The harness on the 454 is somewhat complicated, and just one little mistake can screw up the whole thing.
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Post by lrkellogg on Jun 12, 2013 16:46:06 GMT -6
Oops! I should've worded that better. There are 3 wires, I was just talking about when I had them disconnected from their mate. Sorry for the confusion guys.
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Post by BenInPA on Jun 12, 2013 21:34:29 GMT -6
It still sounds like the wires are wrong. One thing you can try is this. Try tracing the wires one by one and see what color wire each connects to. If you follow the wiring diagram you can get the correct wires hooked up to the lights. Sent from my Droid 4 using Proboards Mobile App. ;D |
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Post by Blaine on Jun 12, 2013 22:29:27 GMT -6
Yep, I wondered about that. Evidently the previous owner re-wired the electrical system on the bike...and in a somewhat poor fashion. I went out to play around and see if I could figure out what was the ground, running lamp, and turn signal wires. I noticed that with all 3 pairs of wires connected my running lights worked but no signals, however I then disconnected one of the pairs of wires and lost the running light, but gained the turn signal in the left lamp...I am by no means handy at all when it comes to electrical work, why would the turn signal only work when one of the wires was disconnected? You do have the proper 1157 double contact bulb in the socket & not a single contact like the rear. |
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Post by BenInPA on Jun 13, 2013 17:53:57 GMT -6
That's a good point Blaine. Better check and make sure ya have the right bulb in there! Maybe your wires are correctly hooked up.
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Post by kgscott86 on Aug 14, 2013 17:37:21 GMT -6
I need to hop in here myself. I just bought my 454 and it didn't come with the turn signals. I just ordered after market and am having no luck with getting them to work. The new lights came with a BLACK - BLACK/WHITE- RED for the front and BLACK - BLACK/WHITE for the back.
Does anyone know which should match up with what colors are on the bike?
Right wires from bike are: BLUE - BK/Y- GREY
left : BLUE - BK/Y - GREEN
I hope that makes sense. In other words what wires should be connected together from the new lights to the current wires on the bike?
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Post by kgscott86 on Aug 14, 2013 18:11:51 GMT -6
UPDATE: So i think i figured out the wiring. I might have a bad relay switch. When i slide the turn signal left or right i can here the relay open/close but nothing happens. When I use a paper clip to bypass the relay, the lights work but no blink, they just stay lit. What do you guys think?
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Post by newyorkrider on Aug 16, 2013 21:10:04 GMT -6
Might as well get a new relay and try to get a transparent one. when i just got my bike the signals would sometimes work and sometimes not. I checked the flasher and it seemed alright but a bit rusty at the terminals. I decided to get a new one just for peace of mind and it solved the problem. I then smashed the old one to see what it looked like on the inside(I have a thing for taking/tearing things apart to see how they work ) and to my surprise it was filled with water and everything was coated with rust. So give it a try
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Post by zekkfett on Aug 16, 2013 21:25:30 GMT -6
UPDATE: So i think i figured out the wiring. I might have a bad relay switch. When i slide the turn signal left or right i can here the relay open/close but nothing happens. When I use a paper clip to bypass the relay, the lights work but no blink, they just stay lit. What do you guys think? The original flasher relay is a mechanical type, they do wear out over time. Your best bet is a new electrical flasher. Go to Ebay and do a search for "EF32 flasher". You gotta remember that all the parts on our bikes are at least 20 years old, some are bound to wear out. Sent from my LG-LG855 using ProBoards |
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Post by eaglerider on Aug 17, 2013 8:36:03 GMT -6
The EF32 electronic unit is available at most auto supply stores, too...about 8 bucks or so, but very much worth it.
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Post by nateshelton on Mar 24, 2021 15:43:19 GMT -6
Did you figure out what your problem was?
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