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Post by berounes on Jun 18, 2013 14:58:10 GMT -6
Hello and thank you for taking the time to read this post.
I read a little on this section and the forum and didn't seem to find my problem. When my engine is cool, I'm having trouble giving some gas. It kinda stalls at 3k revolution but the primes back. I ran out of gas and tryed to start it on empty for a bit before putting it on the reserve. I played a bit with my idle screw a bit because a so what mecanic played with it but i had to change it back because when my bike was warm, the idle was at 3k. Almost my main fuse burned out but i saw my positive pole was loose so tighted it.
I tried putting some carborator cleaner in the gas, no effect. When the motorcycle is warm it seems to be running fine. If anyone could give me a possible answer I'm ready to try it.
Berounes
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Post by Blaine on Jun 18, 2013 16:46:03 GMT -6
Sounds like your choke is not working properly.Does it start easily cold?   |
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Post by berounes on Jun 19, 2013 12:01:18 GMT -6
Yes it does. I put the half choke and starts on a quarter of a turn. The idle is very low when cold (about 900 rpm). When I put the full choke, the rpm goes over 3.5k. It wasn't like that at first. I need to know how to readjust it. Any help would be appriciated since this is my first bike and I don't a user or troubleshooting manual.
Thanks a lot,
Berounes
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Post by Blaine on Jun 19, 2013 14:07:28 GMT -6
If it was fine before touching anything.Try some carb cleaner, (SeaFoam) if you can get it. Also gotta ask when was the valves adjusted last? |
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Post by berounes on Jun 19, 2013 14:33:25 GMT -6
I already put some clean flo carb cleaner in my gas tank. I played with it everyday to try to get the balance right. I seriously don't know what happened.
Berounes
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Post by eaglerider on Jun 19, 2013 18:09:25 GMT -6
Yes it does. I put the half choke and starts on a quarter of a turn. The idle is very low when cold (about 900 rpm). When I put the full choke, the rpm goes over 3.5k. It wasn't like that at first. I need to know how to readjust it. Any help would be appriciated since this is my first bike and I don't a user or troubleshooting manual. Thanks a lot, Berounes When you put it on full choke cold, the RPM increase is normal. When warmed up, no choke the idle should be 1150 to 1200 RPM. Again, as blaine asked, when were the valve adjustment done last...from your description of your problem, a good valve adjustment is in order...these engines require a good valve adjustment about every 5 thousand miles. |
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Post by berounes on Jun 19, 2013 19:33:04 GMT -6
I have never done a valve adjustment. I got the bike about 400 miles ago. I did the oil change. The motor sounds great. It was running super. It might not just be the valve. I think it's probably that I tried to start the engine with the gas primed because I thought the engine was drown. But actually I was out of gas. Maybe I emptied my carburetors. I'm not sur exactly how it works.
Berounes
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Post by Blaine on Jun 19, 2013 22:07:48 GMT -6
If that is the case than you most likely got some dirt in the carbs from the bottom of the tank.If cleaner doesn't help you'll need to pull the carbs for a manual cleaning.Also a good time to install a inline filter. |
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Post by lamestlame on Jun 19, 2013 23:13:28 GMT -6
Try running some of the more expensive fuel with Seafoam that cleaned mine right up the more expensive fuel burn's more easily so it makes it easier if your having problems with firing her up just one gallon and you should be good. Valve adjustment is big like they said look around on here and on youtube for some more info it is really easy all you need is a wrench, screwdriver's, the measuring tool I forgot what it is called when it's done she will run like a beauty. Did my valves under 50 mile's ago.
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Post by berounes on Jun 20, 2013 6:34:42 GMT -6
I always put 91 or higher octane gas. When I ran out of gas, I had put some 94 octane in it. Gonna try to put more carb cleaner in my tank. And if that doesn't work I will remove my carbs and give them a good clean with the carb cleaner. And if that doesn't work, I'll try readjusting my valves.
Thank you again for the insight!
Berounes
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Post by eaglerider on Jun 20, 2013 17:09:37 GMT -6
It is evident that you do not know when the valves were adjusted last.....this needs to be done. For years, I and GWK have tried to get members to understand that these engines require a good valve adjustment about every 5,00 miles. We were met with those that did not believe what we tried to tell them, until their bikes got to the point that they would not start or run...then they started to do the adjustment. Some found that the valves could not be adjusted, and were told to remove the head to examine for damage....a few discovered that they did, in fact had damage that required replacing expensive parts, due to not adjusting their valves as required. They learned their lesson, tho it cost them money that if they had listened to us, they would not have had to spend. We try to help all members to give proper advise, and to save them money. We know we have "new" members that in some cases, have never owned a bike, and or never worked on one...and some know nothing about the engine on the 454...it is not like most other cruiser bike engines, like the Honda, Yamaha, or other bikes.....we have a number of years experience with this bike, and do wish to give any and all the help needed.
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Post by lamestlame on Jun 20, 2013 23:23:31 GMT -6
Now I remember when that happened to me the first time. I killed my battery so It cost me alot of work in the end after reading around on the forum the valve adjustment saved me all the headaches  like Eagle said Adjust the valves it really isn't all that hard if your worried about the cost the most expensive thing is the antifreeze for the radiator. On another not I have a question I set both my exhaust and inhale side to .18 so the other side isn't set to .21 would this cause my bike to shut down after a complete stop? |
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Post by wonkothesane on Jun 21, 2013 4:26:33 GMT -6
It is evident that you do not know when the valves were adjusted last.....this needs to be done. For years, I and GWK have tried to get members to understand that these engines require a good valve adjustment about every 5,00 miles. I believe that should read 5,000 miles. Thanks for all you do, eaglerider. Sent from my Nexus 7 using proboards |
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Post by eaglerider on Jun 21, 2013 4:54:26 GMT -6
 Ooopps....yep 5,000...sorry bout that!!
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Post by eaglerider on Jun 21, 2013 5:02:14 GMT -6
Lamestlame....u need to re-adjust ur valves....intake and exhaust have different settings, that's too tight of adjustment on the exhaust side.....use the higher settings for both when adjusting
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Post by berounes on Jun 22, 2013 19:11:25 GMT -6
I know I should readjust my valves and rebuild my carburetors. I just repaired my mastercylinder. I tried bleeding the front brake because the Mc wasn't poping back and my brake lights were always on. Just fixed that yesterday. I was so happy I could ride. I will rebuild my carbs but I would need help to know how to readjust the valves.
Thanks again for this great forum.
Berounes
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Post by wonkothesane on Jun 23, 2013 3:22:48 GMT -6
I know I should readjust my valves and rebuild my carburetors. I just repaired my mastercylinder. I tried bleeding the front brake because the Mc wasn't poping back and my brake lights were always on. Just fixed that yesterday. I was so happy I could ride. I will rebuild my carbs but I would need help to know how to readjust the valves. Check out the relevant section in this eBook (PDF) db.tt/KKG1CZTgSent from my Nexus 7 using proboards |
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Post by Blaine on Jun 23, 2013 5:31:22 GMT -6
I know I should readjust my valves and rebuild my carburetors. I just repaired my mastercylinder. I tried bleeding the front brake because the Mc wasn't poping back and my brake lights were always on. Just fixed that yesterday. I was so happy I could ride. I will rebuild my carbs but I would need help to know how to readjust the valves. Check out the relevant section in this eBook (PDF) db.tt/KKG1CZTgSent from my Nexus 7 using proboards The valves are not that bad.Just study up on all the info on here & ask any Questions you may have before & during the process.Here is a link to the Vulcan "how to" A few things at the start don't pertain to our bikes.But most is the same,with some great pics. www.vulcanforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2609 |
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Post by lamestlame on Jun 23, 2013 15:53:15 GMT -6
Watch at some Youtube video's even if they are not the same the overall basics seemed the same to me.
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like Eagle said Adjust the valves it really isn't all that hard if your worried about the cost the most expensive thing is the antifreeze for the radiator. On another not I have a question I set both my exhaust and inhale side to .18 so the other side isn't set to .21 would this cause my bike to shut down after a complete stop?
Ooopps....yep 5,000...sorry bout that!!