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Post by lordnor on Apr 10, 2012 9:18:46 GMT -6
I am thinking of changing the stock exhaust and am curious what has been tried. I am looking to get a deeper sound not just loud. I was debating between emgo shorty mufflers or just cutting the pipes and sticking some metal baffles in them. Any one have an idea what the difference of sound would be between the two or know where to go to hear some examples?
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Post by wanchesenative on Apr 10, 2012 9:41:47 GMT -6
Several members have video on here in the photo gallery if you look. I used a pair of Helix turn outs. I don't think they are what you are looking for but here is a link to a video showing them. They are a little louder than I would like. I think I will add baffles at some point in hopes of bringing it down to a happy medium.
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Post by eaglerider on Apr 10, 2012 10:49:39 GMT -6
Due to the nature of our engines, it does not matter what type exhaust you use, as the deep rumble will not be achieved, if that is what u are looking for. No high reving engine will give a deep rumble like a low reving engine. A lower sound at idle can be gotten, but as the RPM of the engine is increased, a higher pitch sound also increases.....I know...as I have ran from stock, to Jardines, to 24 inch x 2 inch wide open drag pipes (they are just about as loud and deep as I think u can get.....way too loud!!)
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Post by chopperfreak2k1 on Apr 10, 2012 10:57:31 GMT -6
that's what i was gonna suggest, the wider diameter pipes/mufflers help to give a lower tone.
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Post by lordnor on Apr 10, 2012 13:13:42 GMT -6
Ok great, that helps a lot. I see what you mean about the corresponding RPM and pitch. I think Im going to try the emgo's and see if it sounds right for me. Thanks again y'all
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Post by eaglerider on Apr 10, 2012 17:08:49 GMT -6
 Try the Emgos??? The air filters have nothing to do with the exhaust sound. I don't understand where you are going with this action.
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Post by lordnor on Apr 10, 2012 17:32:22 GMT -6
No, emgo makes a 12" shorty muffler that I plan on putting on and seeing how that sounds rather than just go with straight open pipes.
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Post by eaglerider on Apr 10, 2012 18:04:07 GMT -6
O...my bad, didn't know they also made mufflers! Sorry 'bout that!! ;D
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Post by consultmha1st on Apr 10, 2012 18:24:01 GMT -6
I built mine from scratch baffles and all they sound great
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Post by joenson on Feb 19, 2013 16:11:25 GMT -6
No, emgo makes a 12" shorty muffler that I plan on putting on and seeing how that sounds rather than just go with straight open pipes. I'm thinking of buying those mufflers. Are they very loud.? |
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Post by BenInPA on Mar 1, 2013 20:16:09 GMT -6
Are you trying to make the bike louder? I seen on the vulcan forum they were talking about something that might work. They said to take a sharpened piece of conduit. Put it down the muffler until it stops. When it stops, give it a good crack with a hammer. Once thru the baffle the job is done. Blaine, zekk, eagle do you have any comments on this? Is there a baffle straight down the muffler that can be punctured?
Sent from my DROID3 using proboards
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Post by Blaine on Mar 1, 2013 20:31:04 GMT -6
Yep done it to mine.Or you can drill 4 holes in the end plate depending on the sound you want.If you drill the holes & you don't like the sound you can plug them up.Once you punch the baffle there is no going back.I ended up going with H-D mufflers.They have a deeper sound & sound much better than original,IMO.   |
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Post by zekkfett on Mar 1, 2013 22:57:47 GMT -6
Are you trying to make the bike louder? I seen on the vulcan forum they were talking about something that might work. They said to take a sharpened piece of conduit. Put it down the muffler until it stops. When it stops, give it a good crack with a hammer. Once thru the baffle the job is done. Blaine, zekk, eagle do you have any comments on this? Is there a baffle straight down the muffler that can be punctured? Sent from my DROID3 using proboards It's still gonna be a high pitched engine, no matter what you do. Popping that front baffle won't make it THAT much louder, unless you pierce through all of the baffles. There are 4 separate baffles in our mufflers. The one at the end, that you can see, then about 3-4 inches forward from that one, is another. Then at the front (engine) side of the muffler, about 2 inches past the inlet is a baffle and 3-4 inches beyond that should be another baffle. Get through all 4 baffles, and it will be significantly louder. If you go and do all that, you will most likely end up with popping on decel, and might need to go up a size in jets. I did a minor mod on mine, and got it to sound better than stock, not overly loud, and not too high pitched at highway speeds. Gives a lil more of the deeper tone at anything under 3,500rpm. And still looks stock. If I were to recommend any exhaust mod to any of you guys, it would be the way I did it. |
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Post by BenInPA on Mar 2, 2013 10:07:25 GMT -6
Thanks Zekk, I plan on doing your mod. I was questioning the other ideas I have seen posted. If I were to drill into the muffler between the rivets. That is the first baffle correct? How far in would the next baffle be? I was thinking 4 holes evenly spaced between each rivet. Holes would go thru the outside and the next baffle in.I understand it wouldn't look stock but if done carefully it should look good. Hit the holes with high temp paint.Just wondering if I were to do that how long of a bit I would need to get thru the second baffle.
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Post by BenInPA on Mar 2, 2013 10:11:20 GMT -6
Listened to your after mod video. It does sound a bit louder and a deeper sound. What do you think it would sound like with the mod I proposed? Just a little louder maybe?
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Post by Blaine on Mar 2, 2013 10:25:42 GMT -6
I was thinking 4 holes evenly spaced between each rivet. Holes would go thru the outside and the next baffle in.I understand it wouldn't look stock but if done carefully it should look good. Hit the holes with high temp paint.Just wondering if I were to do that how long of a bit I would need to get thru the second baffle. That's what I did just drilled 4 holes between the rivets.I punched the baffle later when It still was to quiet.I shifted to H-D mufflers the next season. |
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Post by BenInPA on Mar 2, 2013 15:34:53 GMT -6
Blaine,
I found someone on the vulcan forum with Porky Pig Dyna exhaust for the en500. Does that exhaust make the bike louder? Does it sound deeper than our exhaust? give it more of a rumble? I'm interested in maybe replacing the muffers for something a little louder. If I can pick up a Porky Pig dyna exhaust at a good price maybe I will change it.
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Post by Blaine on Mar 2, 2013 15:41:37 GMT -6
Yep that's exactly what I have on mine.A deeper sound at idle & not to loud on the road to be annoying.You cut the exhaust in front of the crossover (eliminating it) & 1 3/4" pipe will fit over the header pipe & mufflers will fit onto the 1 3/4" pipe. |
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Post by BenInPA on Mar 2, 2013 15:46:39 GMT -6
That would be nice to eliminate the cross-over pipe. That is right in the way when trying to put on the lift. If I were to buy new Porky Pig Dyna mufflers, where would I look? You have a suggestion on a site to look? And what would I do a search for?
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Post by Blaine on Mar 2, 2013 16:09:23 GMT -6
Should be lots on e-bay. just search H-D mufflers.Most of them are 1 3/4" inlet.A lot of the "Harley guys" take off the originals for aftermarket. |
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Post by BenInPA on Mar 2, 2013 17:47:11 GMT -6
The word filter on this forum is really strange. I typed H-D but without the - and it put "porky pig". LOL Anyway, the mufflers arent just any H-D muffler are they? They are specifically H-D Dyna mufflers right?
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Post by Blaine on Mar 2, 2013 18:17:04 GMT -6
The word filter on this forum is really strange. I typed H-D but without the - and it put "porky pig". LOL Anyway, the mufflers arent just any H-D muffler are they? They are specifically H-D Dyna mufflers right? I believe most of the H-D mufflers are similar (1 3/4 inlet) Mine are off a Piglet.  |
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Post by BenInPA on Mar 2, 2013 18:20:43 GMT -6
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Post by Blaine on Mar 2, 2013 18:24:22 GMT -6
Yep the last ones are the proper ones. They are OEM H-D. |
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Post by BenInPA on Mar 2, 2013 18:32:09 GMT -6
Thanks blaine, gonna contact the seller. They look to be in great condition. If I were to get them, any ideas on how I would mount them? Looks like they have the bolt mount on the side where the bolt slides in and the pipe slides forward to lock.
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Post by Blaine on Mar 2, 2013 18:38:01 GMT -6
Yep.That's what makes them so user friendly.The bolt can be tightened anywere along the slide.I just used a piece of "flat bar" from the muffler up to the original mount. |
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Post by BenInPA on Mar 2, 2013 18:55:34 GMT -6
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Post by Blaine on Mar 2, 2013 19:09:21 GMT -6
yep they both will work.But the second ones (black ones)Have the adjustability that you want.They look real nice!! ;D |
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Post by BenInPA on Mar 2, 2013 19:16:27 GMT -6
Ok so basically most OEM harley mufflers will work? Its just a metter of different mounting right? I am going for the black pipes. They will look sweet on the bike. Like I said I eventually want the entire exhaust (engine to outlet) to be black. These would be a real nice start to that. Thanks for the help man. Sorry for the repeat in questions. I should have asked my last question first and I would have had the answer. lol
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Post by Blaine on Mar 2, 2013 19:22:14 GMT -6
Yep.To the best of my knowledge they all have 1 3/4" inlet.Even if they didn't it would only be the matter of getting a reducer.The ones with the slide mount makes it much easier to make a hanger. |
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Try the Emgos??? The air filters have nothing to do with the exhaust sound. I don't understand where you are going with this action.
